Subject	From where I come from, 2 things produce more power:
Posted by	eriksu9 on May 13, 2011 at 8:11 AM
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In Reply To	S2z's Ram Air... posted by S2z on May 11, 2011 at 10:43 PM
Message	More air and/or more fuel. Ram air is a great idea in theory and the more air, the less restriction, the more power. Period. Although I believe the poster is overengineering and there is a lot of other variables to achieve more power, there is no data to rebute his claims.. I would be curious but Ram air did work on the 69 Firebird Trans am and they continued to use it for years thereafter. I am curious but do not believe this mod for his Z is going to make enough difference to = the amount of work time and engineering to substanitate the mod... I give him credit for thinking outside the box and he seems to be a bright guy. I am NO engineer nor am I an aerodynamics expert but I do give a thumbs up for his "OUT OF THE NORM" thinking. I also must say I am a Pontiac enthusiast. My first car was a 68 Firebird, minus the "RAM AIR." :) He had me at "Ram Air." lol. Just my .02. [img border=0 src="http://www.members.aol.com/eriksu9/images/1badz.jpg">****472 RWHP/461 TORQUE ON 110 RACE GAS @21 PSI ****438 RWHP ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS/STOCK MOTOR**** ****429 FT LBS/TQ******************************* Also own: 2001 Harley Davidson Custom Softail Deuce 1997 Ford Explorer XLT V8 AWD 1993 300ZX 2+2 NA 1991 Yamaha YZ250 1985 Ford Bronco 3" lift, 35" Tires Sold: 1986 Yamaha FJ1100 1987 Nissan 300zx na(Z31) 1979 280ZX 2+2 1972 MGB 1968 Pontiac Firebird 1972 Nissan 240Z, dual webber carbs, etc
Follow Ups	S2z's Ram Air... - S2z 22:43:57 05/11/11 . - ZiNnYc 23:33:17 05/11/11 How hard is it to post a subject to your post? - Crazy Greek 00:12:12 05/12/11 +1 (n/m) - Barry (NJ) 10:03:22 05/13/11 Re: Rebuttal... - S2z 01:56:53 05/12/11 If you want any type of respect here, you'll reply - dpjax 05:19:45 05/12/11 indeed (n/m) - aliaZ 05:57:56 05/12/11 Re: If you want any type of respect here, you'll reply - njz 06:51:05 05/12/11 ClownShoes. - Halo TTZ 06:15:46 05/12/11 I hope you change your mind. - ZiNnYc 19:59:16 05/12/11 Re: I hope you change your mind. - S2z 23:19:35 05/12/11 Re: Re: I hope you change your mind. - 90GoldZ 00:22:25 05/13/11 Yew dunt read 2 gud do ya dumba$$ (n/m) - S2z 05:13:37 05/13/11 TO be honest...NO. - 90GoldZ 11:46:10 05/13/11 Not sure if you realize how foolish your comment is. - ZiNnYc 06:38:15 05/13/11 Thank you (n/m) - ZiNnYc 07:22:56 05/13/11 www.selindesign.net/parts.html - vorpalZ 23:34:32 05/11/11 ...plus Jim's Z doesnt look like a mutant salamander (n/m) - LJZTT 05:43:46 05/12/11 but can he feel the downforce at 30MPH? (n/m) - dpjax 06:59:03 05/12/11 probably not, he wouldnt stand a chance in a roadrace thru - LJZTT 07:03:19 05/12/11 I think he left off a zero, He meant 300MPH, f'ing duh (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 07:49:37 05/13/11 Interesting theory - s3trios 23:40:40 05/11/11 Re: Interesting theory - njz 00:10:26 05/12/11 What does this mean?? - OverZealous (CT) 20:34:49 05/12/11 Re: What does this mean?? - S2z 23:37:46 05/12/11 Sportbikes too. - michaell32 01:01:30 05/13/11 All of which are naturally aspirated... (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 07:06:45 05/13/11 Doood, the engineers are talking! - Halo TTZ 07:24:53 05/13/11 a-yup. (n/m) - vorpalZ 15:31:43 05/13/11 I suspect you're right BigT'. See Simple Math Check below. (n/m) - OverZealous (CT) 23:14:22 05/13/11 Why would you not have the intake go underneath the - John (MD) 03:01:33 05/12/11 Re: Got me thinking... - S2z 04:39:19 05/12/11 It fits I have done it to both of my cars (n/m) - John (MD) 20:10:15 05/12/11 yep.. same here (n/m) - KongZTT GT28RS MD 21:15:53 05/12/11 pls report back when your hydrolocked - FuerGrissa 18:46:13 05/12/11 Copycat :-P - BigTDogg (MA) 07:08:59 05/13/11 Now wouldn't the Ram Air effect be useless if the velocity - Eric(FL) 19:55:02 05/12/11 Ash is all over it - OverZealous (CT) 20:31:18 05/12/11 I'm not sure Ash's intake piping is relevant to S2z's idea - Boris 23:05:45 05/12/11 Sorry, I meant Ash has the numbers tabulated - OverZealous (CT) 23:12:14 05/13/11 Re: Now wouldn't the Ram Air effect be useless if the velocity - S2z 00:00:27 05/13/11 Do you want a list of hydrolock customers i had in 1 year - ztunerz 22:00:52 05/12/11 youre assuming this car is a street car though (n/m) - ZiNnYc 22:06:23 05/12/11 oh actually woops reread the last part. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 22:14:02 05/12/11 He said he drove it in seattle rain on public streets - ztunerz 22:14:53 05/12/11 In spite of your wall of text - it's still a crap set up. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 22:09:27 05/12/11 +1. (n/m) - PandaManZ32 23:09:43 05/12/11 Still better than your POS (n/m) - S2z 00:04:31 05/13/11 Re: Still better than your POS - 90GoldZ 00:12:13 05/13/11 Re: Still better than your POS - tjcaustin 00:24:36 05/13/11 none too swift - Gromit 03:13:27 05/13/11 lol... you called Bernie an Elder... :p j/k (n/m) - Zski 09:54:20 05/13/11 Ok. - Bernie (NoVA) 06:22:05 05/13/11 Come on Bernie, that would make too much sense. - Halo TTZ 07:11:55 05/13/11 Not a Smart Move.... (n/m) - Zski 09:55:05 05/13/11 did you get that 2nd engine like i told you? - TeddyZ(SFC) 01:53:20 05/13/11 just what the world needs:another opinionated ass (n/m) - S2z 05:15:35 05/13/11 And you're no pro anyway, butt pilot (n/m) - S2z 05:19:53 05/13/11 wow dude... butt pilot?? what are you 12?? - TeddyZ(SFC) 03:06:24 05/14/11 From where I come from, 2 things produce more power: - eriksu9 08:11:55 05/13/11 Ram air on a forced induction car is 100% pointless. - BigTDogg (MA) 08:21:05 05/13/11 Pointless? I doubt that. - eriksu9 08:49:43 05/13/11 The turbos are sucking faster than the ambient air can push - BigTDogg (MA) 08:56:39 05/13/11 Lmao - eriksu9 09:08:22 05/13/11 Knocked Up reference. And I could be wrong, but I doubt it (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 09:24:03 05/13/11 Makes good sense but I haven't done the math either (n/m) - OverZealous (CT) 22:21:21 05/13/11 Simple Math Check - OverZealous (CT) 23:08:46 05/13/11
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